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Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

hindsight's_a_biotch — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:50:35 GMT

alisha243:

It's called the "Baby Bonus". It's meant to offset the costs of having a new born baby. It was paid as a lump sum but has been changed to 13 fortnightly instalments now. You can either claim the Baby Bonus or claim Paid Parental Leave instead which is used to extend your paid maternity leave time.

It was introduced by a previous government to increase population growth. The Treasurer at the time stated "One for mum, one for dad and one for the country".

In all fairness, I'm pretty sure the US has zero problems with population growth.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

Knitty — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:45:19 GMT

ridesbuttons:
re: cash for babies

I wonder if it like the universal child care allowance I receive in Canada for my kids. $100 per month per kid from birth to 5 years of age.

No, it was a lump sum cash payment. Government had a surplus, and it needed spending. Started as something like $2000, went up to $5,000 and then got turned into a fortnightly payment until you reach the $5,000.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

alisha243 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:30:43 GMT

The cash for babies...what is this for?

It's called the "Baby Bonus". It's meant to offset the costs of having a new born baby. It was paid as a lump sum but has been changed to 13 fortnightly instalments now. You can either claim the Baby Bonus or claim Paid Parental Leave instead which is used to extend your paid maternity leave time.

It was introduced by a previous government to increase population growth. The Treasurer at the time stated "One for mum, one for dad and one for the country".

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

alisha243 — Tue, 17 Apr 2012 01:20:29 GMT

Knitty:
alisha243:
Knitty:
mysticporter:
bbbx3:

Erm, no. And we don't have kangaroos bouncing down the street either.

Unless you're in Canberra .

I blame Burley Griffin.

It's all the round-abouts. They confuse the kangaroos.

And the tourists.

Tourists who then go on TV and tell the world how horrible Canberra is.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/guy-pearce-im-a-dickhead-20120413-1wyik.html

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

meshaliu — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:30:59 GMT

bbbx3:
Erm, no. And we don't have kangaroos bouncing down the street either.

I can't tell you how disappointed I am to hear this.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

ridesbuttons — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:25:53 GMT

re: cash for babies

I wonder if it like the universal child care allowance I receive in Canada for my kids. $100 per month per kid from birth to 5 years of age.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

TefLepOM — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:14:23 GMT

Knitty:
TefLepOM:
hindsight's_a_biotch:
casmgn:

While I feel terrible that the baby is facing so many problems, as far as the money is concerned, this family took a gamble and they lost.

Also, if their Medicaid application is accepted, they won't end up owing anything, right?

I'm pretty sure this is the case wrt Medicaid. It's backdated to the time you qualify, which for this baby would have been the instant she was born. I can't imagine what part of her care wouldn't be covered. There *might* be some co-pays but I doubt it.
shhh, it is more fun to overlook this fact about the US.
Of course, no one ever has a medical bill in the US! You realise that if this woman had been in Australia, not only would she have gotten top tier medical care, but she would have been about $5000 in the black from having this baby (yes, cash for babies).

when they apply for Medicaid, they do not.

Signed adoptive mother who did not receive a bill or have to apply to have costs covered for my son's stay in NICU.

The cash for babies...what is this for?

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

Knitty — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:56:39 GMT

TefLepOM:
hindsight's_a_biotch:
casmgn:

While I feel terrible that the baby is facing so many problems, as far as the money is concerned, this family took a gamble and they lost.

Also, if their Medicaid application is accepted, they won't end up owing anything, right?

I'm pretty sure this is the case wrt Medicaid. It's backdated to the time you qualify, which for this baby would have been the instant she was born. I can't imagine what part of her care wouldn't be covered. There *might* be some co-pays but I doubt it.
shhh, it is more fun to overlook this fact about the US.

Of course, no one ever has a medical bill in the US! You realise that if this woman had been in Australia, not only would she have gotten top tier medical care, but she would have been about $5000 in the black from having this baby (yes, cash for babies).

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

polling — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:47:59 GMT

3sthecharm:
the article I was referring to http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/hundreds-of-mothers-in-emergency-trolley-births-20111012-1ll74.html

Did you actually read this article? Nowhere does it say that women are giving birth in hallways on gurneys. And, it is clearly referring to one area and one hospital in particular.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

TefLepOM — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:55:52 GMT

hindsight's_a_biotch:
casmgn:

While I feel terrible that the baby is facing so many problems, as far as the money is concerned, this family took a gamble and they lost.

Also, if their Medicaid application is accepted, they won't end up owing anything, right?

I'm pretty sure this is the case wrt Medicaid. It's backdated to the time you qualify, which for this baby would have been the instant she was born. I can't imagine what part of her care wouldn't be covered. There *might* be some co-pays but I doubt it.

shhh, it is more fun to overlook this fact about the US.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

Knitty — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 03:42:01 GMT

alisha243:
Knitty:
mysticporter:
bbbx3:

Erm, no. And we don't have kangaroos bouncing down the street either.

Unless you're in Canberra .

I blame Burley Griffin.

It's all the round-abouts. They confuse the kangaroos.

And the tourists.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

alisha243 — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 03:31:24 GMT

Knitty:
mysticporter:
bbbx3:

Erm, no. And we don't have kangaroos bouncing down the street either.

Unless you're in Canberra .

I blame Burley Griffin.

It's all the round-abouts. They confuse the kangaroos.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

bbbx3 — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:18:18 GMT

3sthecharm:
I read a medical article recently that said pregnany women in AUstralia in som earead are mpre often to deliver on a gurney in a hallway than in a birthing room due to over crowding and an overworked "free" medical system. I think shes pretty lucky that baby was born here. And since it is a us citizen the baby will qualify for medicaid under current rules most likely

Let me clarify: Obviously it would have been better for the baby to have been born full term iin a hallway in Australia than in the best possible circumstances premature in the us. Just wanted to calrify I wasnt saying better born any time in us than elsewhere

Okay I've read the article you posted. Are you serious?

1. The Age is a newspaper, not a medical journal. This is not a medical article.

2. This article discussed births that have taken place in emergency beds, not gurneys.

3. There is no reference whatsoever of hallway births. Where are you getting that from? I've been to the emergency section a few times in my life. The beds are sectioned off in the ward.

4. The strain on the public system refered to in this article is in regards to antenatal scans. This is a completely seperate issue to delivery.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

Knitty — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:05:36 GMT

mysticporter:
bbbx3:

Erm, no. And we don't have kangaroos bouncing down the street either.

Unless you're in Canberra .

I blame Burley Griffin.

Re: Australian family to pay $1m after baby born in Florida hospital

3sthecharm — Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:51:43 GMT

the article I was referring to http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/hundreds-of-mothers-in-emergency-trolley-births-20111012-1ll74.html