The Nest

I give you credit for owning up, Soprano (though you're right, it would have come out here anyway) but I'm really, really surprised it was you. I was a big fan of yours on E08, and I'm really shocked.

And I'll repeat here what I said in the E08 thread. I was at the heart of most of the AWing about LilLaLa. Not Lisa. She was rarely posting in the weeks before the birth of her darling daughter, and was posting even less in the several weeks following. She is just an easy target because there is such a neat little gang against her on this board. Lame. Lame. Lame.

I agree, it sucks.  I'm pretty disappointed that I did it, and I'm not proud.

Even if there were a gang against her, she has some role in that.  I've seen a lot of people pissed off by her posts, so it's not just that people up and decided to dislike her.

But the point of this isn't a referendum on LaLa.

The point is that I did something sh1tty, so now I'm apologizing.

Ditto jaime.

I love clever alter egos.  Even snarky ones.  They can spice up a board from time to time.  But ganging up on one particular person is just so junior high.  But you know that by now.

 

 

FWIW, I have no idea who the other AEs are. There was no active ganging up. I didn't tell a single person that I had done it, so please don't assume guilt by association for those of you who know my IRL friends.  They had nothing to do with what I did.

 

... and all this time, I had guessed you were LilBlahBlah.

Glad you apologized. 

Now - we must know - who IS ChicfilA and WendysSpicyChicken???? 

Wow. I agree with ESF - very junior high. I think this is going to make it awfully difficult for people to continue to have mature discussions with you on this board, which you seem to engage in frequently.

And crazyDC - personally, I never want to find out the true identity of WSC or CFA. I like to believe they are friendly, welcoming chicken sandwiches living inside my Internets.  

So, let's see if I have this straight.  From your posts here:

There was a surge on the board and off the board, both from people I know and others I don't, like LilBlahBlah (whoever that is), and the masses were frustrated with your posts.

Even if there were a gang against her, she has some role in that.  I've seen a lot of people pissed off by her posts, so it's not just that people up and decided to dislike her.

And from your posts on E08:

It's a pretty easy explanation.

LaLaLisa was pissing off a lot of people.  Emails were flying, as were Facebook emails.  I was bored, on pain meds for my back, and amusing myself.  It was one of several alter-egos created in response to her (and I was not the first, nor the meanest.) 

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So, the cat's out of the bag.  I'm sure there will be a sh1tstorm on my local, but that's the risk I ran, and LaLaLisa never liked me anyway.

To clarify, it was not to make fun of her baby.  I never made fun of her baby.  I was making fun of LaLaLisa for being a complete AW on the local board, as were the *several*  other AEs who posted and all the people emailing around bitching about her.

To the DC folks, I owe you and Lisa and apology.  Here it is.

 

It looks like,

1) I asked it for it.

Because I ticked people off by...wait, that's what's always missing from all of this, an explanation of what I did to you to make you so angry.  I even asked you in a post, to which you never responded. 

Did I call people names?  Did I tell them their husbands were ugly?  Did I mock them or their babies?

It's seems my crime here was posting too much.  And apparently it was way too hard for this "lot of people" or "surge" to say something, like, "Wow, do you have to post so much?" 

2) There emails flying around bitching about me behind my back.  I guess it was more fun to do that than simply block me so you wouldn't have to read my posts.

3) You think I never liked you, anyway, which is not true.  I don't know why you think that or what I ever said to give you that impression.

And this is how you make an apology? 

Your posts come across as that you were sorry that you got caught, not that you are actually sorry that you really hurt my feelings, that you made me feel unwelcome on my own local board, a place that had been a haven for me. I've given and received a lot of support here and I felt like that was all ripped away.  This board no longer felt like a haven, but a dangerous, hurtful place, especially at a time I was feeling vulnerable.

And your "I was bored and on pain medication" excuse doesn't really make sense considering you have to wait after creating a screen name before you can post.  This was not spur of the moment, it was calculated and premeditated. 

LaLaLisa:

So, let's see if I have this straight.  From your posts here:

There was a surge on the board and off the board, both from people I know and others I don't, like LilBlahBlah (whoever that is), and the masses were frustrated with your posts.

Even if there were a gang against her, she has some role in that.  I've seen a lot of people pissed off by her posts, so it's not just that people up and decided to dislike her.

And from your posts on E08:

It's a pretty easy explanation.

LaLaLisa was pissing off a lot of people.  Emails were flying, as were Facebook emails.  I was bored, on pain meds for my back, and amusing myself.  It was one of several alter-egos created in response to her (and I was not the first, nor the meanest.) 

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So, the cat's out of the bag.  I'm sure there will be a sh1tstorm on my local, but that's the risk I ran, and LaLaLisa never liked me anyway.

To clarify, it was not to make fun of her baby.  I never made fun of her baby.  I was making fun of LaLaLisa for being a complete AW on the local board, as were the *several*  other AEs who posted and all the people emailing around bitching about her.

To the DC folks, I owe you and Lisa and apology.  Here it is.

 

It looks like,

1) I asked it for it.

Because I ticked people off by...wait, that's what's always missing from all of this, an explanation of what I did to you to make you so angry.  I even asked you in a post, to which you never responded. 

Did I call people names?  Did I tell them their husbands were ugly?  Did I mock them or their babies?

It's seems my crime here was posting too much.  And apparently it was way too hard for this "lot of people" or "surge" to say something, like, "Wow, do you have to post so much?" 

2) There emails flying around bitching about me behind my back.  I guess it was more fun to do that than simply block me so you wouldn't have to read my posts.

3) You think I never liked you, anyway, which is not true.  I don't know why you think that or what I ever said to give you that impression.

And this is how you make an apology? 

 

I didn't get into this on E08, but I will now because I somewhat understand where soprano was coming from (and no I didn't email her about you behind your back, I don't talk to/email any nesties IRL) and it sounds like you doubt/question that others were bothered by the massive amount of LilLaLa posts. 

 But I agree with her, during that time DC became LaLa's baby board.  I didn't like it, so I just stopped visiting it (and really haven't truly returned on a regular basis). Its beyond me why people that want to talk about baby stuff just don't use the baby board(S), but hey, you're popular (speaking of junior high) on this board and have a great following and group of supporters on this board so I just removed myself. There was no point in in "talking to you" about it, as its a free message board (plus you and your Nestie friends are bright women, you clearly knew how much you were posting). I can't control you, I can control me so that is what I did. I think blocking is stupid so I didn't do that, plus blocking you on this board at that time would have removed 90% of the active posts and there would really have been no board to visit.

 What soprano did was immature, but that doesn't mean that no one else shared her motivating sentiment.

 In the words of Miranda Priestly, "that's all."

I am really, truly shocked. I don't know what to say. I have always liked both of you (Lisa and Soprano) very much. Yikes.

I'm even more surprised that there are more than one - unrelated - trolls.

it sounds like you doubt/question that others were bothered by the massive amount of LilLaLa posts.

What did I write to give you that impression?  The only thing I questioned as untrue, was me not liking soprano.  It's as if you deliberately misinterpreted what I wrote, just so you have the opportunity to pile on about how many people don't like me. 

I said no one said anything to me to let me know I was bothering them, that I received nothing but positive feedback. Yes, I posted a lot and received a lot of responses.  If I had posted a lot with little to no response, I'd have figured out I was talking to myself and that I should stop posting. 

And for you and the rest of the mob who don't like me, who didn't block me - I still don't quite get that one, but whatever - you could have also just posted a lot on what you did want to talk about.  No one was stopping you from doing that.

LaLaLisa:

it sounds like you doubt/question that others were bothered by the massive amount of LilLaLa posts.

What did I write to give you that impression?  The only thing I questioned as untrue, was me not liking soprano.  It's as if you deliberately misinterpreted what I wrote, just so you have the opportunity to pile on about how many people don't like me. 

I said no one said anything to me to let me know I was bothering them, that I received nothing but positive feedback. Yes, I posted a lot and received a lot of responses.  If I had posted a lot with little to no response, I'd have figured out I was talking to myself and that I should stop posting. 

And for you and the rest of the mob who don't like me, who didn't block me - I still don't quite get that one, but whatever - you could have also just posted a lot on what you did want to talk about.  No one was stopping you from doing that.

 

WHOA Nellie. Who said I didn't like you?  I have nothing against you, that doesn't mean I didn't think your baby posting got excessive on a non-baby board.

I wasn't deliberately misunderstading you.  It seemed like you were questioning what sorprano said, if not, okay.  Its not that serious.

Not that serious<----- exactly why I didn't address you about it. Who cares?  It annoyed me so I left, no harm no foul. As I said before, I can't control you, but I can control me. So I controlled my visitation of the board, no biggee.

LaLaLisa:

3) You think I never liked you, anyway, which is not true.  I don't know why you think that or what I ever said to give you that impression.

 

In light of your request to Soprano, will you please give me the same courtesy of an answer and let me know why you think I don't like you?

LaLaLisa:

What did I write to give you that impression? 

 

Didn't answer the question, what gave me that  idea was the tone that was denoted by saying "I deserved it" and then placing mob in quotes, I thought you were doing that to express doubt, doubt that anyone other than soprano thought you were being an AW at the time.

Again, I don't think what soprano did was in good form, I only addressed your post because of the perceived doubt (I thought you expressed as to her motivation).

LaLa, it's impossible to talk to you about this kind of stuff because you have a band of friends who jump at people at the mere mention of anything remotely negative towards you.  That's great for you; less good for overall board sanity. 

Of course I'm sorry I got caught doing something so immature and ill-advised!  But that doesn't mean my apology to you wasn't in earnest.  I am sorry for hurting your feelings.  From my recollection of my posts (again, I was on pain meds for several days and sent emails I don't even remember, so it's possible I'm wrong here) -- those personal insults about your husband weren't me.  But I understand the need to lash out at me because I'm the one whose identity you know.

You seem to want to pick apart my various posts; I don't think that serves anyone, other than to prolong what was painful to you before and what is painful to me now.  I did something I regret.  I offered an earnest apology.  You can either graciously accept or choose to remain injured.  The latter would make me sad, but it is your choice.

eeclem and gtown -- I also owe you and the rest of the board an apology.  I understand if you don't trust or respect me.  I hope you will see this for what it was: an immature response to a problem I didn't know how to solve, something I'm not at all proud of, and something I've never done before or will do again.

I ignored the majority of the baby posts.  Tis not something that interests me right now (except the extra belly skin, I am anxiously awaiting an update on that one).

That said, I believe the posts could be considered excessive in that at one point in time there was drama about limiting the baby talk; drama instigated by the in crowd/class of 2006.  So in that sense, it seems a bit hypocritical that now that the one of the in crowd is birthin' a baby the board is permeated with baby posts that they once laid into the class of 2005 about. 

I can understand why soprano would feel the need to create an AE to vent her frustrations.  It's not real popular around here to go against the "in crowd".  If this AE had been targeted at soprano, I don't think that the level of outrage would be the same. However, I've always really liked soprano for her williness to go against the in crowd and I am surprised she didn't just air her grievances under her real SN. 

FarBeyondRubies:

LaLaLisa:

3) You think I never liked you, anyway, which is not true.  I don't know why you think that or what I ever said to give you that impression.

In light of your request to Soprano, will you please give me the same courtesy of an answer and let me know why you think I don't like you?

Because people that I think like me have responded along the lines of, "Way harsh" (to quote Cher,) whereas your response "soprano was immature, but..." came across to me as you thought it was justified. You made a point to say that others shared her negative views of me.  That felt like salt in the wound, another gratuitous barb. 

I think I'm going to leave this conversation, at least for the time being.  This really isn't fun. 

ebeth_msn:

That said, I believe the posts could be considered excessive in that at one point in time there was drama about limiting the baby talk; drama instigated by the in crowd/class of 2006.  So in that sense, it seems a bit hypocritical that now that the one of the in crowd is birthin' a baby the board is permeated with baby posts that they once laid into the class of 2005 about. 

Yup, that was my breaking point.

Ebeth, you're right, I should have -- and usually do -- aired my grievances under my own name.  I'm not sure why I didn't.  I was most definitely not myself, but I also made a bad choice.  I guess I've just seen LaLa and her group rip into people, and I've had them rip into me.  I suppose I didn't feel like dealing with that again.