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10-17-2012 at 1:10 PM
lisamaytcc
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My husband is a hoarder!

My husband and I have been together almost eight years (married almost 1 year) and we've been living together practically our entire relationship. He's always been kinda messy and I do most of the cleaning. It's annoying but I can deal and he has gotten better over the years. However, since we started renting a house almost 3 years ago, his collection of outside junk has grown. There's a boat in our driveway that he never takes out. It has become the hangout for all of the neighborhood cats and even has plants growing out of it. He insists he's going to trash the boat and sell the motor but I've been hearing tha promise for about 2 years now. Even his friend (co-owner of the boat) doesn't know why he hasn't gotten rid of it yet. His mother's car has been rotting in our backyard for a couple of years now. She's given us the title and I want to junk it because it's another "project" that he hasn't touched. It basically needs everything under the hood replaced which would cost more than what it's worth. He also insists on keeping it. There are 3 grills in our backyard - 2 propane, 1 charcole. Only the charcole one gets used. The large propane was given to us by my parents thinking my husband would want to scrap it. Instead, he wants to try to fix it and sas he just needs to get a couple of pieces for it. He hasn't even looked up anything on it. The small propane hasn't been used since we got the charcole grill a few months go and is just rusting away. There are 2 motorcycles that don't work siting in our shed. More untouched "projects". Not to mention other random pieces lying around the property. Our landlord is a very nice old man and has ben very patient wit us despite his constant friendly reminders to clean up. He mentions the exact same things that I've been nagging DH to get rid of but he just dosn't care! You would think that since he's hearing it from people other than me that he would actually do something about it! I'm so frustrated and don't know what to do anymore. I almost wish we were living in an apartment again just so he couldn't have a reason to keep all of this crap. We want to buy a house eventually but I'm worried that will give him more reason to collect even more junk! If I haul al of this out myself, I'll never hear the end of it. Any advice is welcomed!

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10-17-2012 at 1:30 PM
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Get rid of them on your own. OR, have your landlord threaten to evict you guys to get your DH into gear so he gets rid of the junk.

 

 
10-17-2012 at 1:37 PM
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Give him 2 week deadline and then call To have it all picked up. 

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10-20-2012 at 8:07 AM
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I have some of the same issues with my H, but on a smaller scale. MIL is a hoarder and BIL's house is starting to get bad too, so I know that's where he gets some of his tendencies from. Slowly, I've been getting rid of stuff. It's a process, but it's working. He doesn't even notice some of the stuff is gone. There have been a few times where I've been like "find a place for this that isn't in 'x' spot or it goes to the garbage or goodwill." He's gotten ticked off a few times, but he's gotten over it really quickly. The other day when we were at BIL's house, we'd noticed how bad it had gotten over a couple of months and it made DH come home and start going through things. I wouldn't suggest doing what I did because it may not be the best way to approach your husband, but rather like pp said give him a 2 week deadline and then get rid of it on your own. Talk to him first so that you're on the same page and that there isn't chaos when things don't get taken care of by him. GL.

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10-23-2012 at 2:34 PM
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True hoarding is a psychological condition and requires therapy. I would suggest you sit your husband down and discuss how this issue is affecting your relationship. If he doesn't think it's a problem or refuses to listen to it, tell him it's gotten to the point that you want counseling for your relationship. Then you can both go to the counselor. I've found that I can talk to something with my DH, and he won't listen, but he can be more receptive talking about the same issues with someone else. Good luck!

 
11-16-2012 at 3:53 PM
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Rakle is right: hoarding is a psychological condition.

My mother is a serious hoarder. She hoards books, craft projects, pictures, childhood toys, jewellery she's allergic to, everything.

I used to take piles of cookbooks into the lounge and tell her, "I'm getting rid of some of these because I would like more cooking space." She'd grumpily tear her eyes from the television screen and would start going through cookbooks, trying to save them on grounds that they had interesting recipes (that she never in the end cooked). For months afterwards she'd find ways to slip barbed comments into conversation about how I shouldn't have got rid of her recipe books.

She got ill maybe 2 years ago and while she was in the hospital Dad and I tidied up the house especially their bedroom as it was considered that maybe part of her illness was from how unhygienic it was in there. We fumigated, disinfected, tidied, everything.

When she got out of the hospital, and saw what we'd done, i.e. making her room look nice, she was furious with us because we'd got rid of some of her things that she'd not touched for years. She was frankly unbearable and made sharp nasty comments for months afterwards if she felt that she couldn't find anything because we might have thrown it away (though sometimes it was more that she'd lost it in her mess of a hobby room.) She nagged dad sometimes until he'd replace things that we'd got rid of to save space such as a foot spa that she'd used maybe once in all the years she'd had it, and i think she's used the new one once so far too.

So yep, good luck and be careful. It's well worth researching ways to get through their hoarding problems.

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11-19-2012 at 10:33 AM
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This is basically exactly like my step dad.  My mom has been able to keep the main living spaces clean, but the garage, basement and back yard are awful.  You cant even walk into or through the garage it is so full.  The basement has a few pathways in it.  He has things that are litterally worthless but all he sees is what is was worth new.  My mom has been married to him for almost 25 years making threats and deadlines.  She has NEVER followed through with any of them.  Now that they have moved from a house to a retirement community he litterally had no place to put ALL his stuff at the new place.  My mom did the best she could to sell them but most of it, she couldnt even give away.  Now he throws it in her face nearly everyday that she gave away or threw away all of his stuff.  PLEASE PLEASE dont wait on this.  I promise you it will only get worse.  My moms only fault in her situation was that she wasnt willing to help him clean it up.  She would say "I didnt bring it here so I am not about to help clean it up".  I feel like had she said "honey, we have a few free hours today, why dont we work on the garage or basement"  OR "it is such a nice fall day, lets go work in the yard for a while."  I really do think it would have been a bit better for her had she been willing to help.  Whatever you do, do it now and keep on it!!!  I say use the landlord or even the city as an excuse. 
 
11-21-2012 at 8:23 AM
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Well, you can't MAKE him clean up. And you don't want to be nasty and mean about it. So try to manipulate him with your emotions,lol. Seriously, though, I can see that you're pregnant, and pretty far along. Just start telling him how him not cleaning up is affecting you, your life, and the life of your child. Start crying and stuff, maybe it'll make him buckle down and clean up. Also mention to him that you don't think that your family is ready for a house because of the mess, and that you all might need to move to an apartment. That'll mess with his pride, and probably make him start taking all of this more seriously. 
 
03-15-2013 at 1:41 PM
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I see this thread is a few months old but hope it's ok if I chime in. I am in the same situation. We lived together for a while but he always kept a room at his parent's place, which was really messy and he was constantly going through 'sorting' projects, which would leave half the room clean and the other half would stay a mess because he wouldn't finish. Now this is happening in our house. To make it worse, when his parents moved to a smaller place, all that stuff from his room there came to our house. There were not too many big objects because we live in a condo but boxes and boxes of sentimental stuff.  He thoroughly does enjoy looking at it and going through it, and I don't mind him keeping it, but it's so messy and takes up space.

 If that were the only thing, that might be ok. But he has tons and tons of clothes. There are constantly clothes piled up in 'his room' which I've given him to try to keep the messiness out of the rest of the house, but I don't care about that room. It's when the clothes start piling up in the bedroom that I get frustrated. Why not put them in dresser drawers or closets, you might think. But guess what's in there- junk! aka stuff he's saved like papers, broken cameras, buttons, cords he doesn't know what they go to. It took me a while to realize this, and finally I looked in his dresser and three drawers were full of junk and I was like, no wonder his clothes are piled everywhere. He constantly wants to get rid of clothes, and seems like he's always working on it. Stuff does go out, but the process is slow, and in the meantime he's bought more clothes! On top of that, he also picks up furniture he sees by the road or in people's bulk trash that he thinks we can use, computers, chairs, desks, etc when we already have too much. So even if something he found is nice, then I have to figure out how to rid of our own things to make room.

And finally, sometimes I see hoarders on tv, and they are really neat, albeit usually worse off. But that's not the case here. I mean to be fair he wants the place to be clean, and is always working on some sorting/cleaning project (that may or may not have results). At the same time, our car is filthy. (Luckily I commute on the train,) He gets fast food and instead of throwing away the bags, he tosses them in the back until the trash piles up and eventually I have to clean it. If if he opens a package, or removes a lid or cap, he does not throw it away, he leaves it on the counter or wherever he removed it. I always just go through and throw this stuff away. Sometimes it's too gross for me to deal with for example I just found a pile of old cigarettes that has to be at least a few months worth on our back porch. They are moved into a neat pile, but why not throw them away?? I don't think he means to leave stuff for me to clean up, it's just like he can't part with it, even if it's trash. Maybe it's the permanence of it. He definitely got it from his mom & her side of the family.

I guess I'm venting a lot here, but I'm just not sure what to do. I nag him a lot (he says) but not enough in my opinion. He feels like it's never enough, but I explained that by the time he's cleaned up one thing, another thing has  started. And I am not a neat freak, in many past relationships, I've been the messy one. He does want things to be nice and works on things on his own sometimes but not until it gets to be overwhelming. But he says he'd be perfectly happy living in a mess. I am almost positive he wouldn't go to therapy for it, so if that is out, do I just clean and nag the rest of my life? I am away from home 13 hours a day for work so I am just so exhausted trying to keep up with this. And I want to get a house cleaner to help out, but I'm worried that with all the clutter, they won't be able to clean. Any ideas?!  Does any one know if a house keeper charges more if your house is clutter-y? I'm not rich by any means so getting someone to clean the house twice a month would be pricey for me, but maybe it's worth it for the sanity. It's just a constant project, and I'm not the most naturally organized person myself so it's a challenge. Also, have to add, he has many many great qualities and I really love him.

 

 

 

 

 
04-21-2013 at 5:07 PM
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Do it yourself, or hire someone to do the things you can't do on your own, and have them do it while your husband is gone or at work. It's the only way it will get done. He might get mad, but then he'll get over it, and the junk will still be gone! You will probably have to go through this routine regularly. How regularly depends on how severe his hoarding is. The mess obviously doesn't bother him so he is not      going       to get      rid     of it.
 
04-27-2013 at 10:09 PM
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If it doesn't work, get rid of it.  Give him 2 weeks to decide if he wants to keep any scraps, at the end of 2 weeks anything he hasn't repaired, disassembled etc, gets thrown out.  It's your house too.  
 
05-09-2013 at 10:08 AM
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I'd call your city anonymously or encourage your landlord to do it. They probably have city ordinances about outside storage and condition of property. Perhaps fines and money going out the door will force his hand? Typically code enforcement will cite you but may waive fines if there is a pkan to clean it up or fix it by X date. Good luck. 


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